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  • jaazee

    Yael Even Or is a traitor to her country, a country at war. You don’t make political statements from the safety of NYC as your people are hit with 1000′s of rockets.#inners

  • jaazee

    In the 1960′s, millions of minorities got to the polls and voted. They walked, drove, were driven by church buses, and probably horseback too, but they got there.Black leaders today don’t help their people, but demean them.
    Other than bringing millions of potential democrat voters, how do millions of illegals getting Amnesty help minority citizens get a job, get their kids a better education in crowded classes, or get medical care in already over-taxed system? How? Most Americans of every color are not dumb idiots.

    And some are waking up.

  • L.K.L. Stockotn CA

    Re Senator :Elizabeth Warren/ : “/MANY democrats turning from Obama to Warren” Obama is not running for 2016, Warren says she is not running…BUT( that great word of hope and change) SHE IS THE ONE Democrats MUST nominate, SHE WOULD WIN! SHE is the one who cares about the working class and the lower middle class…SHE is NOT one of the !%….SHE is not Wall Street’s darling nor has she
    ever referred to average Americans as “The Little People”

    • ROBERTBLANSCET

      We do not need another democrat as president have you not had enough of being screwed by them

  • FredLaMotte

    Why does the media keep carrying statements by John McCain? His dementia is embarrassing all Americans and his constant lobby for war should be ignored.

    • Jerome Taylor

      War with Russia, okay!! That should be interesting!!! I’m sure they’re looking forward to it!!

  • http://twitter.com/minorcan @minorcan

    Basketball has the Worst fans. wish they would take it off tv altogether or make it entirely pay per view.

  • http://Exploer Ella

    Ground Hog Day

    I do not understand how some people can tell their Congressmen not to pass Laws in Congress and then these same people are complaining because they do not have any Jobs, mine you these people votes for the Congress that they are refuring to over and over again and complain about how they can not feed their families because their jobs are going overseas.

    And not to mention that in communities peoples drinking water are catching on firer if you put a match to it, so all of you are saying know matter what happens in these communities hour Congressman will never communize and the same people who are doing all these things in all these communities for the sake of money and they are destroying communities all over the Country. You people who complain but keep sending the same republicans back to Washington to do the very things that you complain about really it’s like, the movie ground hog day

    Because as long as they can keep you Hating someone or something in order to keep you distracted so you will never see the truth and the truth is, when you vote for a Republican you are voting against jobs you are voting against higher wages and when you vote for Republicans you are voting against women rights.

    Now this is another thing that I do not understand completely and that is, why do a lot of the people worry about how other people live their lives and why do they think that all people should live and think as they do, I believe if that was the way that GOD wanted it to be it would have been so.

    Do we not know that is the reason why all the same people prefer to vote to tare us apart as a Country but will not vote for what will hold us together as a Country? I challenge people to vote for what is best for your families and not vote only on hate, now can all of you vote for what will help your communities or will you vote on just what you hate, this is the challenge

    Wake up people and look around you in community’s people can not drink the water, houses are being sallow up in the ground and hospitals are closing down, people has lost their homes and guest what here we go again, the republicans are distract their voters again by telling them to hate the people who do not have the means or the money to harm, hurt or bring hardship to anyone, ground hog day.

    The republicans wants you to look the other way yet again and vote against your own interest and what is really best for the Country as a hole and not just part of the country because just voting for a part will ultimate destroy the whole. I say just stop and see who is the people who sent the jobs overseas or the people who refuse to raise the minimum wage or the ones who are against women’s rights and it is not the fought of your Congressman it is your fort.

    Don’t call your Congressman to complain about what is going wrong in your life because of a bill congress pass or did not pass if you want to complain to the person who is at fought for the recession in this country all you have to do is walk over to a mirror and the person who is stirring back at you is the one you should be upset with and complaining to, you think that you are fighting against your enemies , you are fighting against yourselves and has been going on for a long time now but you refuse to see it or acknowledge that fact. So when you tell your congressman not to pass bills just remember you are hurting all of us not just some of us you can not hurt others without hurting yourselves.

    So when you want to complain, complain to the person who put you where you are today and that would be the one you see in the Mirror.

    When you put republicans in those seats they drain all communities not just some.

    • Banbury

      Excellent word, thank you!

    • Michael Trappe

      If only I could a dollar every time your post had the word ‘republican’ in it.

  • Michael Watterud

    Actually it is open to debate and interpretation by the Supreme Court. The reason the NRA does not want it to get to the Supreme Court is because even Scalia, one of the bulwarks of conservatism had said (on Fox News no less):

    “There are some limitations that can be imposed,” Scalia said. “What they are will depend on what the society understood were reasonable limitations at the time.”

    If even he is open to putting limitations on the 2nd Amendment, the gun industry is very afraid of what might come out.

    But, the fact remains, the Supreme Court's job is to interpret the constitution in OUR CURRENT TIME.

  • Mary

    Lets think about this for a min shall we…the right to bear arms was written when???? In no way did our founding fathers have any inkling that automatic weapons semi automatic weapons in their wildest imaginations would egoist… So before you go too far on the whole it's a constitutional law thing maybe you should read it first and make sure you thoroughly understand it… you may also want to take a look at what a well regimented militia is before you call yourselves one…

  • Charles C.

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation….

    of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance…

    do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do….

    I do believe the document these statements came from actually trump the Constitution and authorize the paranoid among us to be able to be prepared to organize an armed resistance to unfair government.

  • CommonSense

    The 16-year-old boy charged Wednesday [April 9, 2014) after he allegedly stabbed 21 students during a five-minute rampage at a high school near Pittsburgh had a "blank look" on his face during the attack, a witness said.

    No deaths have yet been reported but several students are listed in critical condition.

    Hmmm! It seems the second amendment gun lovers don't mention the latest high school incident. What would have happened if this guy had guns?

    I expect that the right wing-nut, gun loving. NRA organization crazies are unhappy that he only used knives instead of their wonderful semi-automatic handguns and/or assault rifle like an AR-15 with large capacity 30-60 round banana clips. He then could have probably killed many many students in his 5 minute killing spree.

    They say the more guns … the better. We can kill easier from a distance. Plus, it's harder for the students to outrun a bullet.

    • Nicole90006

      "No deaths have yet been reported but several students are listed in critical condition" Key sentence, if a gun was involved, there'd be certain fatalities. One can't control every person, but we should make it easy for people to have the power to end someone's life with just a pull of a trigger. Knives require close proximity (unless the person is a professional knife thrower, Sick most people are not) & a certain amount of fearlessness ness in order to get directly up on someone & push a weapon in the body. Bullets kill from afar, & very quickly, & allows cowards to be able to kill without thinking. There's the difference. We don't want to make it easy for people to kill. Simple.

  • http://Exploer Ella

    The Calling

    The republicans who are refusing to expand Medicaid to the citizens of there states are being mean spirited people ; and if any citizen of these republicans states should die because of lack of access to medical care or access to medication that they can not afford are on the hands of the republicans and the people who are with them.

    This is a same a same what the republicans are doing to their on citizens this goes ay beyond politics this is a matter of life and death.

    People all over this country should ask themselves is this the kind of country that they won’t to live in.

    And someone should ask all those millions of people who won’t the republicans to repeal the affordable health care act, ask them what GOD do they pray too because they most realize that if the citizens in those republicans states die from not having access to health care is also on the hands of all those millions of people who are calling their republican representative and telling them not to expand Medicaid.

    Death is also on your hands as well as your representatives.

    So how many of hour citizens have die.

    When we are at the mercy seat of GOD and He, ask you why did you not act on behalf of the people who needed medical access to a doctor or needed medication or why did you, fight against the people who needed medical help. Tell me what reason or excuse do you think that GOD would believe.

    I won’t to thank all the people in Atlanta who are fighting for the expansion of Medicaid.

    And I thank moveon.org for fighting for Medicaid expansion.

    Starting now let all of the millions of people all over these United States fight with one voice for all Governors to expand Medicaid in their states.

    GOD is for People in need and we all are for GOD aren’t we so lets get this done now.

    Ella L.

    • Nicole90006

      Those Republican's who would deny people medication & health care don't care sweetly, because they've already expressed that anyone who can't afford to pay for their own shouldn't live. There just are some people in the world who line in fear of scarcity & until they get over their fears we'll have to be tolerant &

      • ROBERTBLANSCET

        Why don’t you tell the truth and put the blame on obama he is the one that has messed up the health care in this country with his obama care people are dieing because they are paying for his healthcare and come to find out they are not covered ,So why do you not tell the truth are you just like this lying president we have a compulsive thief and liar

    • Nicole90006

      Those Republican's who would deny people medication & health care don't care sweetly, because they've already expressed that anyone who can't afford to pay for their own shouldn't live. There just are some people in the world who line in fear of scarcity & until they get over their fears we'll have to be tolerant & continue to fight for a human beyond basic right to survive, while remembering that we're social animals that need each other to live & survive. Without the love & assistance of one another non of us would be alive today. "No man is an island"

  • Turthhurts

    You can debate the meaning of the second amendment all day long. You can argue whether the words mean the same today as they did when written, you can argue whether the authors could have ever envisioned a world with such advanced weapons. But while your arguing about meaningless things like whether or not you have the right to kill each other, the government is passing laws that make it legal for them to strip you of those rights. Thanks to The National Defense Authorization Act, and the Authorization for Use of Military Force, you have no rights. You do not have the right to bear arms. You do not have the right to free speech. You have the right to act in a way that your government deems appropriate, for if you do not; your government has the right to authorize the indefinite military detention of persons the government suspects of involvement in terrorism, including U.S. citizens arrested on American soil and even Armed Forces. So continue to ignore the real issues and argue whether the grammar of a text written hundreds of years ago pertains to your life today, because while your pointing your guns to the sky your government is writing a new Constitution that is taking out the bullets.

  • Leslie

    jo stone, you seem rude and obnoxious and rather stupid. A very good reason for you not to have a gun.

  • Greg Pavell

    Nuff – said Paul C… your date of statement, May 4th rings true to the "…well regulated militia…" who fired on Kent State and Jackson State students voicing opposition to federal gov't. unjust, scapegoating wars

    which [we the people] never seem to absolve being tricked into.

  • Smiley

    I have yet to see anybody post the framer's real reason for the 2nd amendment before it was romanticized and twisted by the historical rewrite. The reason the 2nd Amendment was ratified was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia's vote. Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were clear about that. Again, it refers to militias being armed to preserve slavery. If not part of a militia, what are you protecting yourself from? Oh yes…the boogyman! That Socialist – Muslim – illegitimate President. Someone should shut down FOX news for dumbing down the American populace. The crap they pass off as fact is truly astounding.

  • Robert M. Campbell

    I don't leave comments often, I just read and laugh, sometimes in amazement, couple of things about we the people… all Presidents when they take the oath of office must say one main thing, that they swear to protect this country from all enemies, both foreign and domestic, my point is this, there has been a movement in this country for a while led by the rich, people like the koke Brothers for instance and others like Fox news, and right wing nut cases like Ted Cruz etc, you get my point, these are the deranged and twisted treasonous of this country that the President is trying to protect us from… it's folks like them, believe it or not, that plunged this country back in the day into CIVIL WAR! the only hope VOTE their asses out of office, the power of the vote baby, we the people of the UNITED STATES, wake up AMERICA…!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bo Zaborniak

    The Republicans aren't against Obama Care They are against OBAMA When he retires from his term For the rest of time it will still be called Obama Care. That's what the reps are against

  • Jimmy Doors

    Some people, it seems, always prize guns over people. These people are the sort that walk up behind a congresswoman and shoot her in the back. To them I say, "I'll respect your right to carry a gun when you carry only a musket like the Founders envisioned. Until then, you're a menace to society."

  • Chantale

    a well-regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and accoutered, and shall provide and constantly have ready for use, in public stores, a due number of filed pieces and tents, and a proper quantity of arms, ammunition and camp equipage.”

    This quote (Melehi) suggests that the arms be held, not in homes, but in a public storge (armory)… You cut yourself cruelly!

    An amendment is by definition a act of re-shaping a prior constitutional idea or intent, and why an amendment would be treated as cast in stone is beyond me. People like to cling on to written words. A wise well-considered thought is a trump to any past out of context anachronistic idea. It's why we have a current legislature in the first place – to make our laws current and relevant to the present day.

  • FoundingFather

    Actually, Dumb-ie, you might want to bother actually reading the amendment:

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    As an actual historian, I like primary sources. What the amendment means is pretty clear. The early United States had a very small army. The security of the state (i.e., federal government) depended on the ability of the population to support it with force, if necessary. It was not intended as a safeguard AGAINST the government, but rather FOR it, in the context of a WELL-REGULATED MILITIA.

  • Richard Lokie

    Redneck right-wing bulletheads are protecting the right of an escaped mass murdering psychopath to have the constitutional right to arm himself without limitation, including military weapons. The two sentence second amendment, written in the days of muskets, provides no limitations on who owns weapons, the type, or the amount of weapons they own.

  • melehi

    Mark Blackwell, of course Karl Andersen is correct. A militia was an army of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers. "Regulation" of the militia meant ensuring these men were prepared and ready when needed. To understand what the founders thought a “well regulated Militia” would look like, you would need to study the historical documents they wrote at the time. For example, in paragraph 4, article 6 of the Articles of Confederation, is written, "but every State shall always keep up a well-regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and accoutered, and shall provide and constantly have ready for use, in public stores, a due number of filed pieces and tents, and a proper quantity of arms, ammunition and camp equipage." In other words, exactly as Karl Andersen wrote, "practiced, prepared, ready to act.

    Ready to assemble, equipped, trained."

  • RB RADIO SHOW

    WRONG. You Racists are so misinformed and stupid. The 2nd Amendment was formed to protect States from foreign takeover from another Country not to overthrow an American President because he's Black. We have elections for that.

    TKCAL

  • Ella

    There will be know healing

    How can anyone call themselves christens and be apart of refusing to gave medicine to the people who need it, and how can they refuse to treat cancer patients, kidney patients and preventive test and medicine that could save lives these are the things that the Republicans are doing by not excepting the Medicaid expansions in states all over this country.

    Let us call it like it is the republicans have kept certain people poor because they did not want to see them make a decent living for themselves or their families and so they could work three people for the wage of one; first they refuse to give them a education for decades and then a bad education for decades they made sure that an African Americans did not receive no more then a six grade education in twelve years. they worked them for wages as low as they could keep them and that happen for decades while they the (Republicans) told people all over the country that poor people are dumb and lazy, and people all over the country started to believe the lie and then came the 1990s and they started on the poor again like they did ever two to four years this time Welfare by cutting off checks and cutting food stamps saying if they don’t work, they don’t eat what they did was starve women and children so they could keep the tax cuts for the rich and they forgot to tell us is why the poor did not work because ever year or two companies cut jobs or and wages so the poor could not make enough money to pay bills , feed their families or enough to get heath insurance for themselves or their families. The bottom line is that the Republicans need African Americans to stay poor and to do that they most keep good education out of reach and they most keep wages low because that is how they stay in power on the backs of African Americans by hatred and it has become big business.

    What the republicans do is keep the poor, poor that is why there is know Jobs bill in congress they have to keep people mad; so tell me how the Media can think that we the people do not know what is really going on in Congress.

    Know Medicaid for the poor because there is no christens or people with hearts as governors in this country; so do not keep telling me about a website day in and day out because all of you are just thinking about your own pocketbooks and not how wrong the poor is being treated and this goes to the heart of this Country.

    So the Media what Media really don’t make me laugh you know all of you are Republicans at the end of the day accept a few of you really.

    All of you are Republicans deep down don’t you know that including most of the Media.

    Really

  • Jo Stone is Dumb

    Shut up lady. You are part of the plague in American society. Just FYI, our founding fathers didn't create the second amendment for hunting or even to use them! They signed the 2nd amendment to avoid the federal government being overthrown and dictating our lives. I'll break it down a little bit more for you… you see, there were no assault rifles back when the amendment was signed. The types of guns they had/used would hold a single bullet and you would put the gunpowder down the barrel of the gun itself. Go take a history class… You'll learn more from a history class than FOX News you dummy.

  • Karl B. Anderson

    I've looked at that ridiculous comment for months now.

    Yes – I think he understands the constitution, embee.

    Do you?

    Sure, it can be amended.

    Do you know what that would take?

    Until then – it's the law.

    Both Houses of Congress must propose the amendment with a two-thirds vote. This is how all current amendments have been offered.

    Two-thirds of the State legislatures must call on Congress to hold a Constitutional Convention.

    Three-fourths of the State legislatures must approve of the amendment proposed by Congress.

  • Kimberly Benne

    Please don't portray all Texans as represented by Ted Cruz. He has a messianic complex and thanks to your program I just learned that his religious nut of a father has indoctrinated him to think this. I used to compare Cruz to Mengele because like Mengele he's supposedly brilliant, but uses that brilliance for his own ill will, and I hesitate to use this kind of analogy because Cruz' side of things portrays Obama as Hitler, but Cruz is truly starting to remind me more and more of Hitler. He's charismatic like Hitler and he's malevolent like Hitler and he's using the same tactics of disruption and scapegoating like Hitler. I truly think this guy is dangerous and I'm incredibly worried about how this is all going to play out because there are many of us down here in Texas this will do any thing possible to stop the train wreck that is Ted Cruz.

  • POLITUSIC

    Sometimes Truth is biased, Michael. A lot of times, actually. You're right that no cable news network is unbiased anymore… but we're talking about *politics* here. The entire point of the exercise is to have an opinion about the direction of policy and country, then politick to make it happen. Bias *is* politics – it's the intentional isolation of information and the money involved in that process that's disrupted the political system.

    I agree, no one should watch MSNBC all day at work, nor Fox news, and definitely not talk radio. We need to be listening to ALL of them. Then make up our own minds, rather than what happens now where most people pick a single political news source and believe it's the entire picture… that's what North Korea does. That concept is also why people who watch nothing but Fox News, and thusly spend their evenings ranting on blog posts about how all other media outlets are über liberal and don't represent "Real Americans" scare me. Media isolation makes the Business of Republicanism a ton of money, but the unfortunate result is what we see now: self-imposed ideological isolation from the rest of the country – the rest of the world – when what we need is to be accepting our differences and solving very difficult problems.

  • Michael

    Thing that bugs me most about watching this channel (not that any other major news network is any better) is the blatantly obvious Democratic partisan aspect of the reporting. Would be lovely to have a network news station that actually stands on being non-biased. I'm not saying Republicans are right in this argument or that Democrats are. I'm just pointing out that if you want to know and understand the Republican stance on why they're not giving in to the Democrats, this isn't the place to find the answers as I have yet to see any in watching this network all day while here at work.

  • bdana

    Why don't all of your com mentors seem to get it, other than Rachel, these enemies of the gov do not care if they destroy our country. That is their plan. They r traitors to our country

    and you still give them half your air time for free in the guise of news

  • Liberal Majority

    The majority of the people do want this program, some of us who are against it are taking that position because it is not single payer. We will get there, this is a stepping stone and as such, we support it.

  • NotEvenMad

    No one cares that a majority of people do not want Obamacare so it shouldn't matter than a minority of the house are able to shut down the government.

  • Rick Rosio

    The Tea Party and Ted Cruz are the "Manchurian Candidates" of fiction under the direction the the Koch Brothers whose fortune is based upon work with Joseph Stalin at the times of the great purges in the Soviet Union…. Lenin said our destruction would come from within…. and the Koch Brothers have been waiting for the right time… and now they have their "unruly mob"….

  • http://www.veteransforcompassionatecare.org Rick Rosio

    Thank you Rev for telling the truth..Cannabis prohibition is a crime against the sick and dying

  • Rick Rosio

    This is nothing short of criminal conduct by people in Congress who "use insider trading tactics" to enrich themselves..they receive money from the corporate-citizens, the lobbyist jobs available if they vote in support of those industries over the citizens..and a total lack of accountability from the "financial industries and Wall Street" who now just pay fines for criminal conduct and none of those that caused this " contrived austerity" issues face justice.

    Let us be honest … we have slid into fascism…just look at the budget priorities….look at the fortunes made by the legislative members while in office..and the lack of compassion for the citizens who made this nation great…. Shame upon them!

  • Fred Wilkins

    This is such baloney. Talk about making up history to suit the way the current people want it to be.

  • Donald Barnebey

    Pump it out! Pump it out! More violence/fearporn (the DC shooting). To distract us from the important issues of the day. I thought you were a national Cable network, not just a local DC coverage one. Your Cabal handlers doubtlessly prefer that you focus on the minutiae of this minor story, but I and hundreds of thousands of others are turning you off while you overhype this.

  • Rick

    The second amendment was made for us to be protected against tyranny no matter who it was from. Life has been pretty comfortable for those on US domestic soil the past forty-sixty years and to say that it will continue to be like that would be neglecting history's lesssons. For an annual gun crime death rate of 11,000 per year, and NRA registrants which number the millions; I don't see how firearms automatically changes a persons mindset from rationally thinking and recognizing the tool in his hand to "Oh God oh God I don't know what to do with this much power! Let's shoot up a public place!". Firearm regulation does not work, this is demonstrated by cities like Los Angeles, New York City, and Chicago which make up the largest dominating majority of the fraction pie-slice on gun crime rates…they also have the strictest gun laws in the country.

    If you think taking guns away from law abiding citizens will curb crime rate you also will be implying that criminals will follow these laws as well when they show disregard for the law against homicide in the first place. If you HONESTLY THINK it would be hard to acquire a firearm in the (Formerly, assuming)most ARMED CIVILIZED NATION to ever exist you are delusional.

    Stop calling people who want to keep their firearms as their right "nuts", not every law abiding citizen that owns a firearm is one of these. Frankly, I think it's a bit insane for people who come from different socio-economic circumstances, regions, and family backgrounds to dictate the decisions other people make that -aren't- them.

  • http://msnbclivestreaming einctown

    I find myself more and more confused about the seeming rush to make a decision about Syria. Taking one's time in making a decision of this magnitude would seem to be a requirement when leading a nation. My discomfort with the never ending talking head criticisms, mostly by those who have never lived through a war, (and make no mistake, this could well be the beginning tendrils growing toward WW 3)lies in the belief that we gotta do something now – either go in in some kind of military action or back off the situation and let those truly responsible struggle with the horror. Don't forget this is not the first time chemical warfare has been practiced by the Arab nations against their people. Time they left those centuries of genocidal warring behind and join the present day…

  • Gary A Latshaw

    Rachel Maddow show tonight! College kids trying to get voting rights at southern colleges. Which is a narrow perspetive of voting rights across the country.

    Please excuse my generalizations but these people have a huge financial clout. If they don't get the recogition and acceptace in their college or state, what does that organization do if the people go to a more open and enlightned school.

    If a some percentage of the students decide to go to

    another school, doesn't the college and the state lose a lot of money from their tuition fees. This is America, if they block out what you are saying, hit them in their pocket.

    We talk about equality, then use our real equality, the almighty dollar. If the state, college, society or whatever dosen't want to recognize the needs, wants or dreams of the people then the people will spend thier money elsewhere and the people in power can suck eggs.

  • ellymay878

    Some of these liberals (black and white) should reveal where they live and send their kids to school and then tell us why they don't live in the high crime neighborhoods of color. I know for a fact that one of the NYC civil right leaders sent both daughters to 98% white schools in a white neighborhood. Practice what you preach.

  • http://MSNBC BJRiedel

    Why don't the new responses come to the top? Really, everybody else does it. I don't wnat to have to scroll through 100 msgs' to get to the new ones!! DUH

  • http://MSNBC BJRiedel

    Great convo with Spitzer. He admitted that Wall Street is pretty much only for the rich, that's why they're rich, and you're not! A poor veteran….

  • Carolinadancer

    If your 17 year old daughter is walking through her father's neighborhood and she's stalked by a 30 year old man, she runs and he follows her, then, when cornered she perceives that she's in danger so she pepper sprays the guy, or kicks him in the balls, and he shoots and kills her, I guess it's her fault she's dead too. If not, then why was it OK for Zimmerman to kill Treyvon Martin?

  • mark

    juror b29 must be an idiot. how can you say someone is guilty if, as she says, the state did not prove it? she says "in my heart" i knew he was guilty. being in the medical profession she should know the heart is nothing more than a biological pump made of muscle. it does not think, feel, have a conscience, etc. etc. thinking is a brain function and something she should do more of. she says "if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can’t say he’s guilty" dah! of course he killed the man intentionally. is she nuts? he meant to kill trevon because he thought his life was in danger. did she mean to say if you don't have proof that zimmerman's life was not in danger, you can't say he's guilty? hard to say. interview was so nonsensical and out there. it made no sense at all. b29 it seems wanted to convict based on emotions, "heart", feelings, and sympathy. these things do not belong in a court room. and then at the end b29 says she does not think the case should have been brought to trial. of course it should have been brought to trial. there were questions that needed to be answered. b29 just trying to assuage her guilt at convicting this wanna be cop.

  • Don Carl

    How is 2nd Amendment coming into this decision? 1 or 2 guys kicked the door open and freed these three terrorized women. This was done without any guns.

    And why are people speaking about Zimmerman? This is about Castro.

  • Karl Andersen

    "The unhinged “wing-nuts” who desire totally unregulated access to military weapons systems…"

    And who is that?

    No – I don't want a tank or a rocket launcher or rpg's, or full-auto .50s, etc.

  • Karl Andersen

    And we should. We are delinquent in not following the BOR.

  • Charles

    U did not write the constitution…if u are so concerned about protecting it.Why don't u graduate from some school like maybe K thru 12 and learn something about America…Sounds like u want to shoot your way thru life…ur a problem..fix ur self.

  • logia

    What people (who side with Zimmerman's defense) don't understand, is that the Trayvon killing isn't a racial issue; it could happen to anyone and it shouldn't. When you remove race, it's clear to see who was in the wrong here. There was no justice in this case.

  • John

    I just want to say that MSNBC has the single most number of racist on Tv. Totally disgusting the hate on this channel. I will boycott it and hope others who see the hate this channel dishes out will too.

  • Dan Walker

    What if the 5'11 160 pound Trayvon Martin would have stopped and with his hand out said, "Hi, I'am your neighbor Trayvon. What,s your name? Or is that just trying to be white which everybody knows is un-cool.

    • Lisa

      Maybe because he was walking and talking on his cell phone with his friend minding his own business and had his mind focused on their conversation until Zimmerman had stalked him to the point Trayvon sensed his presense and then realized this man, whom he did not know, was stalking him… and if you weren't so narrow minded, you could put yourself in his shoes and maybe come up with…Trayvon was 17, SEVENTEEN!! He did not live in Sanford. He and his Father came up from Miami to visit his Father's Fiancee'… Has it crossed your mind that maybe Trayvon thought this man was after him to do him harm or kill him… Why didn't Zimmerman, a grown man, tell him why he was stalking him? Or, is it that he was packing and didn't have to explain himself… A REAL MAN would have stood up in Court and told the world how it happened if he had nothing to hide!!! No, 5th amendment says he didn't have to….but it doesn't control the minds of the millions who see him as just a big ol p***y for not doing it.

    • BILLY

      IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ZIMMERMAN.MAYBE HE SHOULD OF SAID HI IAM GORGE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH CAN I HELP WITH ANYTHING? REMEMBER IT WAS ZIMMERMAN FOLLOWING TRAYVON. AND DAN WHATS WITH THE WHITE REMARK.AND WHAT EVER RACE U ARE AND I HOPE ITS NOT WHITE,WE CRACKERS ARE COOL AS ALL RACES ARE COOL. BUT U DAN ARE WHOS UN-COOL!!! ME I'AM 57 WHITE AND COOL AS HELL!!

    • http://yeah uncanick

      Dan you dumb bigot I hope you dont reproduce the point you missed is 16 year old he was a child you jackass

  • Elaine

    It's not only gun laws that need to be changed. Its the jury system. Defendants should be forced to testify. Only then can a jury get a better understanding of the truth and can make a more fairer verdict.

  • JVW

    If Zimmerman who was a neighborhood watch official did not have the duty/responsibility/minimal decency to disclose to the person he was watching/trailing/confronting that he was acting in his "official" capacity, and if "the right to stand your ground" gives every citizen in certain States the right to carry a gun for "self-defense", then this country is going to revert to the lawless wild west of recent memory and the streets will become shooting galleries. This is INSANE. Zimmerman was told to stay in his car. He disobeyed instructions. When asked why he was following Treyvan Martin by Treyvan Martin, he did not reveal that he was acting in the capacity of a neighborhood watch official. What was his victim to think but that he was being harassed and threatened by a strange man in and out of a car? If Treyvan MARTIN had a gun, would be not be justified in protecting himself by pulling out a gun under the "Stand Your Ground" stupid law?? The jury verdict was a travesty of justice. Zimmerman is a coward and a bully and the verdict should have minimally been Manslaughter.

  • Karl Andersen

    Vincent – nice try. The Second Amendment was not about survival. It was about defense from abusive governments.

    And police departments are not militias.

    There were law enforcement dept's when the constitution was written.

    The Militias were meant to be a force of civilians.

    Separate.

  • Karl Andersen

    May, that is NOT what well regulated means.

    "Well Regulated" means practiced, prepared, ready to act.

    Ready to assemble, equipped, trained.

    Inform yourself.

    • Karl Andersen

      So, “well regulated” really meant “properly functioning.” It didn’t have anything to do with setting rules and laws for the militia.

      • Mark Blackwell

        No. If that's what we meant to say in the amendment, we would have said "Properly Functioning."

        But nice dictionary re-writing though.

  • CP

    I was wrong, None of them had any honor.

  • CP

    If this case is not about race; why is the jury overwhelmingly white!, with one hispanic who, if history is any juge, will sympathize with another hispanic.. All white women!…..give me a break.

    It is not surprising to me that all the pundits and pundit lawyers some with outstanding creds. know this is a case of WWB, being pursued by a fascist zealot and pretend cop with a loaded gun..

    Most are predicting an acquittal because they know Florida's history.

    The state is not pressing home the real nitty gritty of this case. They just mention these incredibly incrimination circumstances in passing.

    Giving the states it's due Guy is outstanding. Not much can be said about the "bald headed dude" other than is he really working for the prosecution..

    Be that as it may;

    I predict that at leaset one juror will have enough common moral honesty and common sense to hang the jury.

  • Jim Moses

    I am so tired of you people interrupting the George Zimmenr trail it makes me sick.While people are testifying your telling us what the previous person said.If your going to cover the trail cover it and keep your comments to your self.You just lost a good viewer.

  • radha

    hello TRMS please use your show to help us immigrants

    get the bill PASSED IN THE HOUSE. COME ON GOP……

  • radha

    Hardball use your forum to assist immigrants and the House of Rep to pass the bill

  • http://No.website Billie Godfrey

    The State is not really trying to WIN this case, don't forget it took them 45 days and a whole lot of public pressure before they arrested George Zimmerman.

  • doccraig67

    there are already many laws that restrict "the right to bear arms." You can't own an anti-ballistic missile.(which you'll need to shoot down the drones.) You can't have fully automatic weapons, .50 caliber machine guns etc., etc., etc. Your argument doesn't hold water.

  • donni

    Personal choice for abortion is also a constitutional law. What don't you understand about that???

  • radha

    please let immigration reform pass……

  • joe

    what don't you understand about the words "well regulated" read the 2nd amendment if you are able.

  • jo stone

    So amend it. Otherwise, shut your face.

    • Kim Dominguez

      "Shut your face" really? Well Free Speech is the 1st Amendment so it trumps your 2nd!!!!! Hateful, Hateful wonder if people feel safe around you with a gun in your hand?

  • Eric James

    I appreciate those who can express, not just an opinion, but fact..This is the problem with most of us so called "fair and "patriotic" supporters of the hidden messages behind the Constitution today. We run from the truth and fight for a lie.

  • Pat Champion

    Stop watching her, it's that simple.

  • CP

    Lets hear it for the new and improved John Crow supreme court.

    Hopefully "we the people" will know when we are being screwed.

  • CP

    Big Ed….are you really this naive? What do you think Ken Kuchinelly would do with this snooping architecture. Or a graduate of any of the born "agin" "universities, Pats or Jerry's "universities" leap to the fore; where biblical Law takes precedent, Or any of the tea party governors around the country now limiting the vote of Democrats and ddesimating women's rights,

    What do suppose these folks would do with this snooping apparatus? At lease Bush had the checks and balances of congress and the armies of the democrats.

    Snowdon is a whistle blower and a heroe and needs to stay out of the clutches of the spy apparatus in this country, Just look how the last whistle blower Bradley Manning was treated and may face life in prison or even death…….can you really be this naive and short sighted with out the ability to extrapolate or take a chess move to its ultimate effect on your game or in this case our ultimate betterment..

    He who gives up liberty in quest of security, deserves neither. This from a wiser man of a wiser time.

  • Paul

    Chris,

    You have a very annoying habit. You ask a question of you guests and interrupt them before they can answer. You butt in with some other qualifier while interrupting the answer from your guest. Ask the question and have the courtesy to let them answer.

    Paul Willis

    • Pat Champion

      Love it that Chris is too cleaver for anyone to get the best of him. He's a walking political encyclopedia. Most of the responses are bs.

  • Philippe

    Just to be clear. A constitutional amendment (any of them) is ALWAYS up for a vote. And a vote is preceeded by a debate. Soooo…if Congress decided that the 2nd amendment needed to be struck down, and that it passed Congress and then the States decided the same (by vote), then said 2nd amendment would be abolised. Simple as that! There is nothing that prevents future Congresses and future State legislation to repeal ANY of the Consitutions amendments, including the one that abolished slavery…so before anybody says that the 2nd amendment is NOT up for debate, may be they should learn and UNDERSTAND HOW THE US CONSTITUTION WORKS!

  • Andrew

    The second amendment is just words on a piece of paper to make you think you have power in your country when you actually have none. You are going to stop the US Marines with your peashooter? Good luck.

    The democratic process is one of behavioral conditioning and the manufacture of consent. The last thing this country allows is real progressive change.

  • CP

    Am fast losing respect for Karen Finny. Gross naiveté bordering a close proximation of Pollyanna, has no place on an intelligent analysis., A quick remind….folks giving up liberty in the quest of security deserves neither. But the real fact is they will receive nothing but ever more authoritarianism.

  • http://Daveyg50@yahoo.com Davey hager

    Breaking News My Daughter is in Jail in Belfast and she is a American Please Help me.

    Thanks Davey Hager

  • Milton Oliver

    Heads up MSNBC. Your television signal has been down and/or erractic all morning.

    • Admin

      Fixed Mate, was going through some site clean up CHeers

  • Paul Rivera

    Remarkable how redundant the news outlet has become. In Walford England world changing news is happening and you want to talk about someone having a baby.

  • CarolO

    Geez, put the evidence out there and let the jury decide. This picking through what they want to come out and what they do not is dumb. No wonder jurors can't make educated decisions.

  • Leroy Skalstad

    By disagreeing with enhanced background checks and allowing convicted felons to buy firearms at gun shows the way to protect the second ammendment?

  • Donny Stubbs

    People have to do a background check; or something similar before you can go on the plane. Why can't the same thing be done for those who want to own guns?

    Background checks shouldn't bother you; unless you got something to hide. And don't talk about privacy please!

  • Audrey White

    I am very puzzled that when the IRS investigate the Tea Party it is a crime, however when they investigated the NAACP I did not hear this type of outrage. MSNBC I lost my belief in you, why you are not bringing the NAACP story to the news. Please let the people know that the IRS investigates everyone.

    • http://none C. Olmsted

      Why is the Tea Party asking for 501 C status instead of 527? Are they not a politico party. What is the real subtrafuge to our democratic system? If you lie to the IRS you get investigated like always.

  • gary slade

    Regarding Chris Matthews contention that dumping 100 emails on us just before filing time doesn't give us time to respond;what? Talk about artificial timelines, you take as long as it takes to read and analyze the documents and then you report on them when you are ready. Gut reaction reporting and speculation is the reason I switched(this week)from CNN to MSNBC. I really like your show Chris (aside from wishing you would calm down a bit so that you don't bust a blood vessel) but please remember that reporting first is not the same as getting to the heart of the story.

    Also as an aside, does anyone in press realize how hilarious it is is to see the press getting outraged about the AP issue? Surely the republicans must be smirking at the piling on Obama about this issue making you brothers in Arms with the gop!

  • charles parker

    So, if this congress, in the quest of self service, shouts wolf for the hundred and umpteenth time while continuing to legislate for the 1% under cover of such loud protestations; will anyone but Fox viewers, really take notice?

    As for me I just change channels when the pundits begin a drunken binge on this useless pile of crap, waisting my time while losing its credibility..

    I get the sick feeling that I need to change my subscription from behind the times to day old news.

  • http://na Debra

    They need to regulate backgrounds checks to check guns from the mentally ill, children, people who are constantly stoned (Colorado, California, Washington, Oregon), people with illnesses that keep them from obtaining a Driving License (epillepsy), but do not hinder them from obtaining a firearm.

    • Liz

      If you're going to include the stoners, you must also include alcoholics and prescription drug abusers. There isn't any difference in diminished capacity.

      • SanMarcosTexMan

        It was reported that Dick Cheney had been drinking before shooting his friend in the face. Not only do guns cause irreparable harm, they appear to go well with a beer or two.

  • Rootrytooty

    I should have said AR-15. AR-25 was a typo.

  • Rootrytooty

    I am a retired military person and have used many military weapons. I know what an AR-25 is and contrary to some, it is a military style assault weapon. I think background checks and a limit on how many bullets a magazine can hold is critical for the safety of our people and especially our children. If these gundamentalists want unfettered access then they need to look in the mirror if, God forbid, another mass shooting happensand chldren are killed, to see what they could posssibley prevented.

    • Brad Riedel

      I agree Sir, I'm an 8 yr. Vet..PEACE

  • CommonSense

    There are already restrictions on the 2nd Amendment. You cannot, for example, own a lot of military hardware (e.g. fighters, helicopters, missiles, bombs, etc), convicted felons cannot own firearms, etc.

    We already do background checks on people who buy firearms through licensed dealers, and it hasn't led to "guns being taken away". Expanding the background checks to any gun sale helps keep guns out of the hands of felons, the mentally ill, people on the terrorist watch list, etc. Unless you're on one of those lists, it won't bother you.

  • Leavemy 2nd amendmen

    The second amend is not up for debate. it is not up for polls.

    It is constitutional LAW. What part of this do you not understand?

    • embee

      its an amendment, it can also be amended. do u even understand the constitution?

    • reply

      "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

      OK but a "well regulated militia" would also mean background checks, gun registration and licensing similar to cars, how'd you like that?

      • http://depresleys.com Paul Carlsen

        One thing that most people seem unaware of is the historical evidence that the second amendment was written to keep the southern states on board with the United States Constitution and with very idea of a "Bill of Rights".

        This was done to placate the powerful slave owning southern mega-farmers, who held the reins of political power in the southern states, by giving them the legal right to form "well regulated militias" to hunt down "their" runaway slaves.

        These "slaver-barons" and their "genteel" southern "culture" were the decedents of the decadent and barbaric "slaver culture" of Barbados, Jamaica and the other "West Indies" islands.

        These vile and decadent "Salvers" were in turn the decedents of the disgraced offspring of British and French nobility, sent to the West-Indies" to keep them away from public scrutiny and the inevitable stains to the honor of their "noble" family names.

        Many of these horrid "slaver-barons" migrated to the American south and created the slave-labor based "plantation culture" and here we are 300 years later.

        So there is your "Genteel" Southern "Plantation-Culture" and there is your "Sacred" Second Amendment right to bear arms.

        I speak here as an American DAV/VFW who holds expert marksman badges on the AR14, AR15, and the service 45.

        The unhinged "wing-nuts" who desire totally unregulated access to military weapons systems are not at all the "well regulated militias" that the founders had in mind when they created the second amendment to the Bill of Rights, and the Second Amendment is not in the least what the ARA and Wayne La Pierre purport it to be in their unpatriotic, lie-filled and seditious "War on Common sense".

        • Brad Riedel

          I agree Paul, I'm an 8 yr. Veteran with 4 expert Marksman badges on the M-16…and I don't even own 1 Weapon to this day…I've been there, done that..It has nothing to do with what the American Public thinks they know, and especially our Congress…PEACE Brother..xo

    • Barris Harms

      So if every word of the second amendment is mandatory, I don't understand why the militia doesn't have to drill every weekend? You would think that all gun owners would want to practice protecting their townships from foreign armies that might invade.

    • Bigshotprof

      The part where it seems to be the only amendment that you all think is sacrosanct. The first amendment is regulated. You have freedom of speech but not anywhere and about anything. You have freedom of assembly, but have to get permits. The obsession with the second amendment has nothing to do with the constitution and everything to do with people not giving up their shiny fetshistic toys.

    • Matthew Tanner

      It needs to be.

    • SanMarcosTexMan

      Just like with any right, there are certain limitations and responsibilities that go along with them. You can't legislate common sense but you can limit one's right to yell fire in a crowded theater, own a machine gun or buy a gun if you fall into certain categories. These gun nuts are letting their children kill their little brothers and sisters, all in the name of gun rights. How about the right not to be shot?

    • Richard

      Guns are dangerous; they kill people. I went deer hunting when I was young and killed a deer; never again. I love golf so I understand passions people have for their avocations. But the worst thing that ever happened to me in golf was a broken windshield (why did it have to be a Mercedes?) so a very bad mistake with a golf ball is a $600 windshield. I don't need to tell you what a bad mistake can do with a gun. Passions make people a little crazy – golf certainly does for me, but if the passion is guns, we're setting up a condition that can have a horrible end. Some will say that guns in the hands of responsible people is an OK thing – while not a fan of Dick Cheney, I'd none-the-less put him in the so-called 'responsible' category – and he managed to shoot his friend in the face. So, maybe 'responsible' doesn't make the cut. Guns are dangerous. If we eliminate guns, we eliminate: What? Yes, we eliminate danger. But those who have to have their guns offer their arguments about why they are, what? Necessary! It's like chocolate cake, or the second martini, or a big bag of potato chips to go with the beer (one of my problems), those things are not necessities, they're desires. I desire a second martini, you desire to own an assault rifle. I do my best to avoid that second martini because I know it's not good for me and I would argue with any fellow martini lover who would suggest otherwise. In that department I put prudence ahead of my desire, and, reluctantly, I'm better off because of it.

    • gmax

      Anyone's, Everyone's right to life supersedes your right to bear arms. You're just going to have to live with this fact as the rest of us will live with your preternatural fears.

    • Deadskin

      Actually… the second amendment isn't up for debate. What's up for debate is what in means in modern society, because we don't have state militias anymore and the specific issues the second amendment was meant to address are no longer relevant.

      • Bill

        Three things allow the Second Amendment to be up for debate: (1) Article Three, Section Two, (2) Article Five, and (3) the First Amendment, all of the U.S. Constitution.

    • Mark

      Nothing is ineligible for debate and your interpretation does pass the smell test.

    • Leif Johnson

      Any part of the Constitution can be amended. There was a amendment that enacted prohibition and another amendment that cancelled that amendment. The Constitution is a LIVING document which the Founders knew would have to be adjuested over time. There is no Constitutional barrier to the repeal of the Second Amendment.

    • Jen

      Ever heard about shouting fire in a crowded theater? There are all kinds of limits on the first amendment. and the 4th. I am sure you have heard of the Patriot Act? We limit the rights in the constitution all the time. Try again.

    • Keith from Chicago

      The 2nd amendment does its limits. Obviously, it's ambiguous, which explains why there are so many different interpretations. And over the years, the courts have ruled in different ways over what it actually means. It does not provide a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose. Limits can be placed on our rights to bear arms. We cannot, for instance, own surface to air missiles.

      Even our freedom of speech (1st amendment) has limits. Defamation and slander are not allowed. Additionally, certain verbal threats will land you in jail. Finally, you're not allowed to use speech to incite riots or cause unsafe conditions for others- such as yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.

    • Enlighten Patriot

      It is interpreted differently by different people. The 2nd Amendment is related to a well regulated militia.

    • Dave

      you're right. the amendment is not up for debate or polls. that means that, as the non-debatable amendment reads, a well-regulated, being NECESSARY, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. so, which well-regulated militia are you a part of to necessitate your weapons? oh, you think that amendment means you get to bear arms without being in a militia? cause in 1875 the supreme court ruled in 1875 that "the right to bear arms was not granted by the constitution." learn your history before you go gun crazy.

    • bradley riedel

      This Immigration Nightmare is Stupid! They're saying now that it is a money issue going back to a law #2 Bush passed, but what happened to President Reagan's law passed in 1986?? That was 28 years ago!!

    • Jake J. Portland

      This is an appeal to tradition. "IT'S LAW" doesn't make something right or wrong. If murder was legal, it wouldn't be any more right than it is. America is the only developed country with this horrifying standard of "guns for everyone" and its terrible consequences manifest almost daily.

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